Gear Talk: Anyone had any experience with the defNder Neck Protection device? (First post here)

[RocketPunch]

Hi all! I did a search and got nothing regarding the defNder.

Just wonder if anyone had any experience with the defNder Neck Protection device? It is a HANS alternative, a bit cheaper and best of all the angle is adjustable to fit any vehicle type.

Thanks ahead.

[Jim Pace]

The HANS is a proven safety device. For the cost difference in alternatives cut your budget elsewhere. Don't paint the helmet? Run 30 minutes less track time one day etc... We all understand running on a tight budget but don't cut the corner with safety. I still use my original HANS from many years ago. Shoes, gloves, suits & helmets all wear out quickly but the HANS will out last them all. When alternatives prove to be safer, pay whatever they cost at that time.
Many drivers use one HANS for formula and closed cars.
For now the HANS is a great way to be prepared. Be safe.
Merry Christmas,
JP

[RocketPunch]

I know HANS is a proven safety device, but the defNder offered something more, which is lateral protection. The device is SFI-38.1 certified and pending FIA homologation. Just wanted to find out if anyone had any experience with it.

[Jim Pace]

My point is don't make the decision because it is cheaper. When the "next" device proves to be BETTER then get it whatever it is. Please let us know what you find out as all are interested in safety.
Jim

[cooleyjb]

I spent probably more time than anyone else at the PRI booth playing with the device. I was convinced. I'm going to carry it in my store and I'm switching to it from my HANS. It offers better offset impact protection and is more comfortable.

It's not really a 'budget' device as teh Sport Hans is only slightly more expensive and some of teh other players are in the same range as well.

[John Greist]

Very interesting. Agree with Jim - no price on safety. Revere and I are running the same HANS we got in 2000 and recertified last season after being tested once by both of us.

At the same time, intrigued by the possibility of even greater safety. Where can we read about the new device?

The hardest thing to understand is running without at least the sportsman HANS. Shows the strength of denial, an often useful but sometimes fatal mental defense mechanism.

[Bob Zecca]

I just tried going to the defnder website and it is gone? Is anyone else having the same problem? It says Directory Listing Denied.

[John Greist]

Same result when I tried:

The website declined to show this webpage
HTTP 403
	Most likely causes: This website requires you to log in.
	What you can try:
	[IMG]res://ieframe.dll/bullet.png[/IMG] Go back to the previous page.
	[IMG]res://ieframe.dll/down.png[/IMG] More information This error (HTTP 403 Forbidden) means that Internet Explorer was able to connect to the website, but it does not have permission to view the webpage. For more information about HTTP errors, see Help. Could it be a result of the reported HANS lawsuit?

[cooleyjb]

http://www.defnderneckbrace.com/

[John Greist]

That works. Expanded website name.

[cdh]

hard to believe their site builder didn't make the old url a pointer to this one before going live...

the more I consider their tech the more this design makes sense. As long as it is very robust, which it seems to be, the design has some interesting innovations.