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View Poll Results: Add Sportsman Rules?
I agree, SB needs to add rules for moving up from Sportsman 27 67.50%
I disagree, I like things the way they are. 3 7.50%
Good idea that needs further discussion 9 22.50%
Again with the Sportsman question!! Let it go... 1 2.50%
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Old 04-28-2007
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Re: To Sportsman or Not To Sportsman

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I'd have been discovered in the tower with the headset on.
listening to Jon Morley's CDs no doubt...

BTW, DD, you forgot to mention how great the crew had the Mazda Skip Barber Formula 2000 Powered by BFGoodrich and Quaker State car running....but don't worry, a few more weekends, and you'll have the script down.

Nice work, anyway, wherever you were!

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Re: To Sportsman or Not To Sportsman

Thanks H. Yeah, steep part of the learning curve on all counts.

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listening to Jon Morley's CDs no doubt...

BTW, DD, you forgot to mention how great the crew had the Mazda Skip Barber Formula 2000 Powered by BFGoodrich and Quaker State car running....but don't worry, a few more weekends, and you'll have the script down.

Nice work, anyway, wherever you were!

p.s. it's first person plural
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Re: To Sportsman or Not To Sportsman

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Love the notion of switching places with Rob in race two. The only problem with that is he'd have won the race and I'd have been discovered in the tower with the headset on.
Good try DD but WE know the switch occurred. Rob didn't win because of his coach and was heard muttering, "If I'd done what he told me, I'da been DFL."

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Love the notion of switching places with Rob in race two. The only problem with that is he'd have won the race and I'd have been discovered in the tower with the headset on.

Good try DD but WE know the switch occurred. Rob didn't win because of his coach and was heard muttering, "If I'd done what he told me, I'da been DFL."
Holy Cow, my sides are splitting!
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And as Fudd always said " be vewy vewy cafull".

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Re: To Sportsman or Not To Sportsman

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I so loved the old system when the fastest 9-15 drivers at the track were the ones on the podium and those spots were earned! If one stayed for the season the last two weekends (when the top group raced each other) were times of opportunity and podium spots for the next level were welcomed with overall excitement. Those guys earned that spot by sticking to it and continuing to improve. Many of the best Skippy memories were from first time winners on those weekends!

It may be impossible to put the egg back into the shell...

The guys we are not hearing from are the 5th-15th overall that would be winning races in the old system. Currently those guys don't have a chance at a podium but the 15th-20th guys are "winning" Sportsman races.

Not an easy issue to solve nor implement and certainly no way to make everyone happy but w/ equal cars the fastest guys should be "winning"!

My 2 cents...thanks for reading.
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Yes what he said...as usually Jim i think you hit on the the key points.

BTW the old system did allow for first season wins. I won in my third race and yes it was at the end of the season in an easier group but I had chances in other races too. And JP won in his rookie year, that same year, of course he went on to rookie of the year while I ended up being asked to take a CC clinic)

I'm not sure what it was like pre-2004 but it wasn't that difficult to finish well back in the day with the old system.

As I said I plan on winning in champ but if I'm in the back or mid pack after 6-8 races it will be hard to get motivated each event. I love racing and I'm also very competitive, the notion of a P-6 or 7 being a good weekend won't work for me too long, even if the competition is the best.

It's not about trophy's, podiums, recognition, I had the option of staying in sportsman, in fact when I moved to champ my points went to sportsman heaven. It's about the desire to win and motivation to improve. We all can't be Revere, or Craig D, or one of many hot shoes karters that come (yes I do love the young guns) although that would be nice, arriving at a weekend knowing I have to be one of the top 3-4 drivers of 60-80 to have a chance to win is daunting, at least for me.

I guess the problem is the current system works for the very best and the sportsman, but for those in the top 5-15 there is a void, the old system seems to be the best compromise to me.

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Re: To Sportsman or Not To Sportsman

Back before we did the sportsman thing, we just had a single point system and the new guys went into 1 group to keep them from getting "slaughtered". Also, there were some guys who did the whole series, and would be sportsman guys today and would appreciate the old way. I think the full series "sportsman" guy who ran well and stayed on the track would place well. Sadly, that guy can't get full points in the sportsman group. I say go back to the old way and put new guys in 1 group so they have a playmate the first race.
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