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Grand Prix 14 45.16%
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Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

Since the recent remasterd relese of Grand Prix, I was wondering if these two are the accepted "greatest racing movies ever" which one is greater?

For me, as a whole movie, Le Mans has great footage more togeather and has Steve McQueen.
However, Grand Prix captures something else, excitment, mood, not quite sure, in it's racing footage, that while far from a great movie as plot and lines goes for me it's the winner. Plus it has the best opening ever.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

Agreed Le Mans has great footage and McQueen but there is almost no plot because there was almost no script. If you've seen the documentary about its making they shot great racing footage but changed directors during shooting because no one could find a plot in it anywhere and they were way over budget. (Like all things racing ) I believe McQueen even waived some or most of his payment to get the thing finished. McQueen wasn't a big dialogue guy and Le Mans is all about the cars.

Need to look at Grand Prix again. Don't remember it well enough but surely with Paul Newman, James Garner, and good international cast there is more service to a story line and plot. More conventional hollywood drama that isn't completely true to racing but was as close as you'd get for the time. I believe Grand Prix got both Newman and Garner hooked on racing.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

I would vote for Grand Prix overall, but Lemans has the best one liner "Racing is life, everything else is just waiting".
BTW Newman wasn't in Grand Prix, I think "Winning" was the movie that got him hooked.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

I found them to be artful, but overly dramatic. They're not the kinds of movies that I'd like to watch over and over again, as they're not that entertaining. The movie I'd like to throw into the hat is "Gumball Rally". It's not based on a legal 'sanctioned' race, so it may be ineligible, but it does have some amazing car scenes (best one was the Daytona screaming up Park Avenue at 6AM out of the old Pan Am building, going through every light) and it's also a really fun watch.

BTW, I added these all to the Racing DVD's section.

I also added a poll to this thread, which I can upate with more titles if anyone wants. We needed a fun new one for the front page - the last one was stale.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

Grand Prix has the best sounds of racing engines (love those 1960's GP cars).

Le Mans has the best footage of race cars, and what cars, the 917's, 512's, 908's, 365's, etc were some of the greatest sports cars of all time, my favorites anyway.

Neither has any drama or acting worth mentioning.

Grand Prix has that catchy theme song and classic 1960's multiscreen intro........I like watching both of them as any certified car nut would. I would say I have seen both of them 10+ times (thanks to fast forward).

I remember seeing Grand Prix after begging my Dad to take me to the picture house when it opened in 1966 (I was 10).

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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

Paul Newman's film was Winning and it did get him into racing. McQueen was a Motorcycle guy (paied for "On Any Sunday" which is woth a see too.) As for Canonball movies my favrote was "Speed Zone" ever since I was a kid. Has John Candy too. Never seen Gumball so I guess it's not a fair shot.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

It's been so long between viewings that I melded them together. Guess I'll have to revisit them all before making further comment or voting. It's an interesting comment on racing films that the only ones we can come up with are decades old.

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I would vote for Grand Prix overall, but Lemans has the best one liner "Racing is life, everything else is just waiting".
BTW Newman wasn't in Grand Prix, I think "Winning" was the movie that got him hooked.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

Touched up indeed. Sy, what you are saying is pure sacriledge . It is the purest form of driving. A man, his machine, 5 a.m. Sunday morning in Paris. Using people as apexes, damn the pigeons full speed ahead, red light, what red light. And in the end he did it all for love. Tres Magnifique! Nothing staged, just testiculi (Italian translation, it was a Ferrari afterall) to the firewall and a screaming 12 cylinder.
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Re: Grand Prix Vs. Le Mans

I submit that if you pay very close attention to the audio track, you will too often hear tire noise when there should be none. No visual touch-ups, granted, but definitely audio.
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